A video clip that is so, so good. Not complex. She had two lunches with Bernie Madoff. She discusses Robert Jaffe and Ezra Merkin. "Everyone in the business has been hit by a fraud." "It's not so easy to get out."
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=289004&cl=11559131&src=finance&ch=1316259
On Robert Jaffe -- "not smart enough to be in cahoots [with Madoff]."
On Ezra Merkin -- "he's smart...but doubt that he was in cahoots."